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usenet@lawknowledge.org.mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:Your degree decides your lifespanIANSThe Times of IndiaSaturday, August 2, 2003London - To live longer, choose the right degree course.Students of science or engineering have the best chanceof living longer, while arts or law students are morelikely to have a shorter life, according to researchpublished in the Journal of the Royal Society ofMedicine.A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60per cent more likely to die prematurely than theircontemporaries in the sciences......The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for artsstudents is that they were less likely to gain a secureand well paying job, making them stressed andmalnourished.

Hi,

Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England
have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard
about "starving artists" but not recently.

How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative
in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be
unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least
that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample
of people that I know.

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  • Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:13:00 GMT(1)
  • In article <bgtvr7$4h2$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>,
    Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted: >Your degree decides your lifespan > >IANS >The Times of India >Saturday, August 2, 2003 > >London - To live longer, choose the right degree course. >Students of science or engineering have the best chance >of living longer, while arts or law students are more >likely to have a shorter life, according to research >published in the Journal of the Royal Society of >Medicine. > >A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60 >per cent more likely to die prematurely than their >contemporaries in the sciences...... > >The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for arts >students is that they were less likely to gain a secure >and well paying job, making them stressed and >malnourished. Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted: Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know. Dr. Jai Maharaj:Please note that "malnutrition" doesn't necessarilymean starvation:malnutrition n.Poor nutrition because of an insufficient or poorly balanceddiet or faulty digestion or utilization of foods. - The American Heritage Dictionary of the English LanguageJai Maharajhttp://www.mantra.com/jaiOm Shanti
    Yes, mal = bad and malnutrition can mean overeating and/or a poor selection of food. But that is a subset of the "lifestyle choices" that I suggest is root of the difference in life expectancy between artists and scientists that your report finds. ,,,,,,, _______________ooo___(_O O_)___ooo_______________ (_) jim blair (jeblair@lawknowledge.org.facstaff.wisc.edu) Madison Wisconsin USA. This message was brought to you using biodegradable binary bits, and 100% recycled bandwidth. For a good time call: http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4834

    First, the clarification that "you report" above must
    mean "the report you posted". Second, "lifestyle choices"
    are often made subconsciously. Also, consciously-made
    lifestyle choices are often the result of incorrect information.

    Jai Maharaj
    http://www.mantra.com/jai
    Om Shanti
  • Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:53:00 GMT(2)
  • Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> wrote in message news:<bgrfur$k3f$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>... usenet@lawknowledge.org.mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:Your degree decides your lifespanIANSThe Times of IndiaSaturday, August 2, 2003London - To live longer, choose the right degree course.Students of science or engineering have the best chanceof living longer, while arts or law students are morelikely to have a shorter life, according to researchpublished in the Journal of the Royal Society ofMedicine.A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60per cent more likely to die prematurely than theircontemporaries in the sciences......The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for artsstudents is that they were less likely to gain a secureand well paying job, making them stressed andmalnourished. Hi, Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know.

    Denistry attracts people who are cautious and conservative.
    The last known date that science attracted anybody
    that was cautious and conservative, there was
    only 1,000,000,000 people are Earth, rather than
    the 7,000,000,000 jogging idiots there are now.
  • Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:02:00 GMT(3)
  • Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted:
    Yes, mal = bad and malnutrition can mean overeating and/or a poor selection of food. But that is a subset of the "lifestyle choices" that I suggest is root of the difference in life expectancy between artists and scientists that your report finds.
    First, the clarification that "your report" above mustmean "the report you posted". Second, "lifestyle choices"are often made subconsciously. Also, consciously-madelifestyle choices are often the result of incorrect information.Jai Maharajhttp://www.mantra.com/jaiOm Shanti

    Hi,

    Yes, I called it "your report" since you posted it for us to read. And
    thanks, it was interesting.

    I doubt that my lifestyle choices are make "subconsciously": I am usually
    aware of the chices I make. And I doubt that (today at least) people are
    not informed about food choices. Who does not know that over eating
    causes obesity? Or that exercise is good for you? Ot that vegetables are
    good for you? Or that too much alcohol is bad? I thought everyone's mother
    told them about all that.

    Food labels (in the US at least) list calories, fat (saturated and un),
    carbohydrates, fiber, protein, and lots of less useful information. Do
    people need a science degree to understand those labels?

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  • Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:52:00 GMT(4)
  • Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> wrote in message news:<bh8ttr$7in$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>... zzbunker@lawknowledge.org.netscape.net (ZZBunker) wrote:Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> wrote in message news:<bgrfur$k3f$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>... usenet@lawknowledge.org.mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: >Your degree decides your lifespan > Hi, Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know. Denistry attracts people who are cautious and conservative. The last known date that science attracted anybody that was cautious and conservative, there was only 1,000,000,000 people are Earth, rather than the 7,000,000,000 jogging idiots there are now. Hi, The comparison here is the relative degree of "cautious and conservative" lifestyle between "scientists" and "artists". Like for example any data on the smoking rate between the two groups? (My limited experience suggests that artists smoke more than scientists: I don't remember a scientist who smoked since I was in graduate school 45 years ago)

    I know many who do or did smoke until recently.
    I suspect the difference has more do with a lot of artists
    tending to smoke *whatever* they can get their hands on,
    rather than even bothering asking what's in the stuff first.
    And I wonder if scientists have more job security than artists? We are all pretty insecure. (I have lost/moved from/been laid off 6 different jobs so far).

    In today's job market, if you *haven't* been laid off,
    left for unknown reasons, been downsized, or otherwise
    blew out of Dodge, from at least 6 different jobs,
    that probably implies you are a Mathematican,
    or some other form of Left Wing Radical College Instructor.
    Which would also imply that your job skills are
    a priori not very tranferrable to begin with. So you might as well
    just continue doing what all scientists do, rather than
    trying to find a secure job, which is PRAY.

    ,,,,,,, _______________ooo___(_O O_)___ooo_______________ (_) jim blair (jeblair@lawknowledge.org.facstaff.wisc.edu) Madison Wisconsin USA. This message was brought to you using biodegradable binary bits, and 100% recycled bandwidth. For a good time call: http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4834
  • Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:58:00 GMT(5)
  • In article <bguepc$d38$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>,
    Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted:
    Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted: Yes, mal = bad and malnutrition can mean overeating and/or a poor selection of food. But that is a subset of the "lifestyle choices" that I suggest is root of the difference in life expectancy between artists and scientists that your report finds.First, the clarification that "your report" above mustmean "the report you posted". Second, "lifestyle choices"are often made subconsciously. Also, consciously-madelifestyle choices are often the result of incorrect information.Jai Maharaj
    Yes, I called it "your report" since you posted it for us to read. And thanks, it was interesting. I doubt that my lifestyle choices are make "subconsciously": I am usually aware of the chices I make. And I doubt that (today at least) people are not informed about food choices. Who does not know that over eating causes obesity? Or that exercise is good for you? Ot that vegetables are good for you? Or that too much alcohol is bad? I thought everyone's mother told them about all that. Food labels (in the US at least) list calories, fat (saturated and un), carbohydrates, fiber, protein, and lots of less useful information. Do people need a science degree to understand those labels?

    Unfortunately, reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic are not
    something in which most Americans excel. In fact, many
    have difficulty reading or understanding simple sentences.
    One more thing: most people just don't care. Apathy rules.
    The positive aspect of all this is that there's a lot of
    room for better education at home, in school and in the
    workplace.

    Jai Maharaj
    http://www.mantra.com/jai
    Om Shanti
  • Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:22:00 GMT(6)
  • zzbunker@lawknowledge.org.netscape.net (ZZBunker) wrote:Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> wrote in message news:<bgrfur$k3f$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>... usenet@lawknowledge.org.mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:Your degree decides your lifespanIANSThe Times of IndiaSaturday, August 2, 2003London - To live longer, choose the right degree course.Students of science or engineering have the best chanceof living longer, while arts or law students are morelikely to have a shorter life, according to researchpublished in the Journal of the Royal Society ofMedicine.A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60per cent more likely to die prematurely than theircontemporaries in the sciences......The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for artsstudents is that they were less likely to gain a secureand well paying job, making them stressed andmalnourished. Hi, Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know. Denistry attracts people who are cautious and conservative. The last known date that science attracted anybody that was cautious and conservative, there was only 1,000,000,000 people are Earth, rather than the 7,000,000,000 jogging idiots there are now.

    Hi,

    The comparison here is the relative degree of "cautious and conservative"
    lifestyle between "scientists" and "artists". Like for example any data
    on the smoking rate between the two groups?

    (My limited experience suggests that artists smoke more than scientists: I
    don't remember a scientist who smoked since I was in graduate school 45
    years ago)

    And I wonder if scientists have more job security than artists? We are
    all pretty insecure. (I have lost/moved from/been laid off 6 different
    jobs so far).

    ,,,,,,,
    _______________ooo___(_O O_)___ooo_______________
    (_)
    jim blair (jeblair@lawknowledge.org.facstaff.wisc.edu) Madison Wisconsin
    USA. This message was brought to you using biodegradable
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  • Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:16:00 GMT(7)
  • In article <bgrfur$k3f$1@lawknowledge.org.news.doit.wisc.edu>,
    Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:Your degree decides your lifespanIANSThe Times of IndiaSaturday, August 2, 2003London - To live longer, choose the right degree course.Students of science or engineering have the best chanceof living longer, while arts or law students are morelikely to have a shorter life, according to researchpublished in the Journal of the Royal Society ofMedicine.A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60per cent more likely to die prematurely than theircontemporaries in the sciences......The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for artsstudents is that they were less likely to gain a secureand well paying job, making them stressed andmalnourished.
    Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know.

    Please note that "malnutrition" doesn't necessarily
    mean starvation:

    malnutrition
    n.
    Poor nutrition because of an insufficient or poorly balanced
    diet or faulty digestion or utilization of foods.
    - The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language

    Jai Maharaj
    http://www.mantra.com/jai
    Om Shanti
  • Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:47:00 GMT(8)
  • Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:Your degree decides your lifespanIANSThe Times of IndiaSaturday, August 2, 2003London - To live longer, choose the right degree course.Students of science or engineering have the best chanceof living longer, while arts or law students are morelikely to have a shorter life, according to researchpublished in the Journal of the Royal Society ofMedicine.A survey of mortality rates found arts students were 60per cent more likely to die prematurely than theircontemporaries in the sciences......The reason cited for the higher mortality rate for artsstudents is that they were less likely to gain a secureand well paying job, making them stressed andmalnourished.
    Jim Blair <see@lawknowledge.org.sig.com> posted: Malnutrition? In England? They gotta be kidding. Doesn't England have the same obesity problem as the US, only less? I have heard about "starving artists" but not recently. How about this: science attracts people who are cautious and conservative in their lifestyle choices, while artists are more likely to be unconventional, experimental and "living life on the edge". At least that characterization seems to apply to the (I admit small) sample of people that I know.

    Dr. Jai Maharaj:Please note that "malnutrition" doesn't necessarilymean starvation:malnutrition n.Poor nutrition because of an insufficient or poorly balanceddiet or faulty digestion or utilization of foods. - The American Heritage Dictionary of the English LanguageJai Maharajhttp://www.mantra.com/jaiOm Shanti

    Hi,

    Yes, mal = bad and malnutrition can mean overeating and/or a poor
    selection of food. But that is a subset of the "lifestyle choices"
    that I suggest is root of the difference in life expectancy between
    artists and scientists that your report finds.

    ,,,,,,,
    _______________ooo___(_O O_)___ooo_______________
    (_)
    jim blair (jeblair@lawknowledge.org.facstaff.wisc.edu) Madison Wisconsin
    USA. This message was brought to you using biodegradable
    binary bits, and 100% recycled bandwidth. For a good time
    call: http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4834
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