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• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:28:00 GMT(1)
• Chloe, I edited my reply to include the link I referenced. Despite Jetx' claim, what the law proves is that there is no prohibition against an employer from working an 18-year-old whatever hours they agree to (i.e., no maximum hours, as for those under 18).
  Panties in a bunch today, Jetx? You are one of the rudest people I have ever encountered.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:42:00 GMT(2)
• Yes she does have the right to limit his hours, but she is saying legally she cannot let him work more than twenty five hours. Perhaps she doesn't really know the law and that is why i am asking. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:38:00 GMT(3)

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  Originally Posted by chloekat66

  Is she right?

  No.... but what difference does it make? The employer can schedule how many, or how few, hours an employee can have. If the manager only wants to give him XX hours per week, his options are to work them or find another job with more hours.
  http://www.dol.gov/esa/programs/whd/state/agriemp2.htm
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:07:00 GMT(4)

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  Originally Posted by chloekat66

  I thought this website was to aid people who have questions about the law. I am sorry if I am bothering you. I am not saying she is ignorant, maybe she just didn't know. Not knowing the law doesn't make you ignorant. She may even have his best interest at heart because she knows it may be hard for him to work and do well at school. I was just curious as to what the law was.

  And you STILL don't 'get it', do you?
  Why are you even involved in this? Your son is an adult. Let him handle his own 'problems'! He will be much better for it.
  Finally, let me try to make this very clear. The manager is wrong in his/her statement as to the law. But that means absolutely NOTHING. The manager can schedule as few hours as the employee will accept. And if the employee doesn't like it, the employees ONLY recourse is to either work them or quit.
  What the hell will you gain if you confront the manager with the 'knowledge' gained from this forum? If I were that manager, the only thing you would gain would be to see your son full-time as he wouldn't be working for me anymore. You are talking about McDonalds.... not a real 'highly skilled' job anyway.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:10:00 GMT(5)

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  Originally Posted by pattytx

  Chloe, I agree that Jetx responses were tacky and rude and just kept getting worse. You were polite beyond where I would have been.
  Michigan appears not to have its own Child Labor laws, as going to their website linked me to the FLSA Child Labor page. Here is the Federal law, which would then apply.
  Jetx**.....lighten up! The woman asked a question. Nobody likes to be told their question doesn't matter. If you weren't going to answer the question asked, you should not have posted.

  And what the hell value was YOUR post to this thread? Of course, none! You even forgot to provide the link you mentioned.... and even if you had, it would have provided NOTHING since there is NO law as to how few hours can be scheduled for ANYONE, ANYWHERE!
  Jeeeze... is anyone besides me 'awake' to the fact that there is absolutely NO reason for this nitwit to even be involved in her ADULT sons life.... much less his employer!
  And if this hurts your poor little feelings, who cares? Life is tough.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:55:00 GMT(6)

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  Originally Posted by chloekat66

  Yes she does have the right to limit his hours, but she is saying legally she cannot let him work more than twenty five hours. Perhaps she doesn't really know the law and that is why i am asking.

  Whether she knows the law or not is not relevant. If she wants to give him only 5 hours a week and say it is because of his age.... there is nothing wrong with it. If your intent is to just 'prove' that she is ignorant of the law, you might just find your son with LOTS of hours at home.
  Simply, there is NO reason that this is an issue..... except your own.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:59:00 GMT(7)
• I thought this website was to aid people who have questions about the law. I am sorry if I am bothering you. I am not saying she is ignorant, maybe she just didn't know. Not knowing the law doesn't make you ignorant. She may even have his best interest at heart because she knows it may be hard for him to work and do well at school. I was just curious as to what the law was.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:05:00 GMT(8)
• Chloe, I agree that Jetx responses were tacky and rude and just kept getting worse. You were polite beyond where I would have been.
  Michigan appears not to have its own Child Labor laws, as going to their website linked me to the FLSA Child Labor page. Here is the Federal law, which would then apply. http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/youthlabor/index.htm
  Jetx**.....lighten up! The woman asked a question. Nobody likes to be told their question doesn't matter. If you weren't going to answer the question asked, you should not have posted.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:22:00 GMT(9)
• And you still don't get it either. My son asked me if I would check on the validity of his bosses claim. I have no intention of running over to mcdonalds and cramming this in her face. You are rude and arrogant. I asked a simple question and was expecting and yes or no answer. Not a chewing out. I do get that she can schedule any amount of hours that she likes.
  "not a real 'highly skilled' job anyway"
  That was uncalled for. Why would anyone be that mean about a young man who is working to earn his own money during his high school years. I am just going to assume your having a bad day and aren't intentionally being mean. I don't have anymore questions for you so there is really no need for us to continue.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:19:00 GMT(10)
• Thank you pattytx. You would think that a senior member would have better manners. No, my feeling aren't hurt. I could care less what you think. You obviously have a personality problem. Have a good day.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:43:00 GMT(11)
• Thanks pattytx. That is what we thought. It could be though a policy of mcdonalds and not really a law. I was just thinking about that. It is hard to work and go to school at the same time. I am thinking his boss just has his best interest at heart. Which is hard to get through an eighteen year olds head. He likes that money coming in. I don't think Jetx understands or even cares where I am coming from as far as asking the question on my son's behalf. I really don't have a clue as to why he even answered me. Maybe he just doesn't like woman or he hates cats. I don't know. . I try to make it a practice to let my children once they are grown make their own choices. He asked for my advice and since I am not a lawyer I didn't know for sure. I didn't want to answer him without first making sure i was correct.
• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:40:00 GMT(12)
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• Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:47:00 GMT(13)
• Pattytx, just wanted to say you were very helpful. Thank you very much for your input.
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