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YouTube is Accepting Forged DMCA Submissions (Intellectual Property)

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• Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:48:00 GMT(1)
• You have your lawyer subpoena their Internet usage records, and see if they were spending time on those proxies at the same time the complaints were being sent to Google. You subpoena email accounts as well - not everything is entirely fake if they're receiving and responding to Google's notices. And you see how the pieces fit together.
  
  I suggest you read the DMCA (PDF). I suggest you also consider that Google owes you absolutely no duty to carry anything that you produce.
• Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:46:00 GMT(2)
• YouTube is following the law. You can file a legal action and seek discovery to try to prove who is doing this. You probably already have a pretty good idea.
• Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:27:00 GMT(3)
• Well the official way to dispute a DMCA is to file a Counter Notification.
  We file this.. then the other party is notified that we did so, and are given 10 days to claim they are "seeking a court order", or else the videos are reinstated.
  SInce the other party is completely fraudulant, of course they simply reply back saying they are seeking a court order, again signed with the fictitious name and address.. and, again, this is good enough for YouTube.
  
  As for notifying YouTube that not only are these our videos (and the absurdity is the fraudulant party is filing DMCA claims on ALL videos across 3 accounts, just a blantent attempt to abuse the system to get the accounts suspended).. we have been telling YouTube about this in every way possible.
  YouTube KNOWS they are fraudulant names and addresses.
  They STILL act on them.
  
  Your guess is as good as mine.
  Watch the video I linked above, and it is demonstrated in detail exactly what they are doing.
  
  We have disputed not only the claims, but have proven that the documents were signed with fake names and addresses (the streets do not even exist! The phone numbers are fake! EASILY verified!), but YouTube ignores this.
  
  Why YouTube is acting as a party to forgery, I have NO idea.
  
  This is why we need help..
• Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:41:00 GMT(4)
• When you disputed the DMCA notices, what was the result?
• Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:20:00 GMT(5)
• I know the issue with Google/YouTube, they are under no obligation to host any video. BUT, they are acting on fraudulant documents and knowingly accepting forgery. I don't understand the logic behind that.
  
  If I were a company and saw someone was abusing the system this way, (and committing forgery/fraud/perjury) I certainly would not knowngly accept it, especially after proof is given that it is, in fact, forgery.
  They are in full knowledge it is forgery.
  WHY would they be accepting it? That's the part I can't understand.
  
  As for proxies, the problem is these are ANONYMOUS proxies.
  Set up to cloak identities. It's purposely routed through hundreds of servers around the world. They are set up to make it almost impossible to track to a real IP.
  The same system has been used by terorists to post hostage videos. The government's top people have problems tracking it, if they are able to at all.
  
  So we are back to square one.
  IP trace is virtually impossible even IF tracking info was released.
  We know who it might be, but we can't provide a link to prove it.
  I'm sure it could be proven if they confiscated their computers, possibly.
  But how can we just give them who we THINK it is, and expect the cops to go nab this persons computer based on our word.
  
  So again, thats why we need help.
  I'm thinking we need to get them on a criminal (federal) offense, where cops or FBI will be actively involved, and somehow link it to the real person. Maybe set up some sort of sting?
  And then worry about civil charges later?
  I really have no idea.
• Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:56:00 GMT(6)
• Well, the problem here is, these people aren't stupid, and are hiding behind anonymous proxies that are impossible to trace..
  But we have done our own undercover research and have a good idea who they are, but would anyone accept this as "proof"?
  We would need some sort of admissable link to the actual person, to their actions.. the fax filed, or something.
  Not sure how to do that. And how to you file anything against a fake name and address?
  What exactly do we do and where do we go from here?
  
  How is YouTube "following the law" by acting on obvious forged documents? Even when they are repeatedly notified they are forged, and can be easily checked. That seems more of a crime to me.
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