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type=entertainmentNews&storyID= 12025122&src=rss/Entertainment Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. The high court sent the case back to the federal appeals court in California for more proceedings in the long-running legal battle involving the former Playboy centerfold who also had her own reality television show. Smith was 26 when she married oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall in 1994. He was 89. They met three years earlier when she was working as a topless dancer in Houston. Marshall was one of the wealthiest men in Texas, worth more than an estimated $1.6 billion. His death in 1995, after 14 months of marriage, triggered a legal battle between Smith and his son, E. Pierce Marshall. She claimed that her husband promised her half of his estate. The son said the more than $6 million in gifts she received in 1994 was all his father wanted her to get. In Texas, a state probate court ruled that E. Pierce Marshall was entitled to his father's estate. But in California, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled for Smith and awarded her $474 million because of her claims the son had interfered with the inheritance she was supposed to receive. A federal district court judge then cut Smith's award to $88 million. But the appeals court ruled she was entitled to nothing because federal courts lack jurisdiction in probate disputes. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in the ruling for the Supreme Court that the appeals court was wrong and the district court properly asserted jurisdiction over Smith's claims against the son.
Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at the
federal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings are
implemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of the
lawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to have
happened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probate
cases?
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- Mon, 01 May 2006 19:58:00 GMT(1)
- On Mon, 01 May 2006 18:35:36 GMT, Agent Smith
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"edonline" <edonlineSPAMOUT!@lawknowledge.org.comcast.net> wrote innews:0LOdnbhPPYHjg8vZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@lawknowledge.org.giganews.c om: http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID= 12025122&src=rss/Entertainment Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. The high court sent the case back to the federal appeals court in California for more proceedings in the long-running legal battle involving the former Playboy centerfold who also had her own reality television show. Smith was 26 when she married oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall in 1994. He was 89. They met three years earlier when she was working as a topless dancer in Houston. Marshall was one of the wealthiest men in Texas, worth more than an estimated $1.6 billion. His death in 1995, after 14 months of marriage, triggered a legal battle between Smith and his son, E. Pierce Marshall. She claimed that her husband promised her half of his estate. The son said the more than $6 million in gifts she received in 1994 was all his father wanted her to get. In Texas, a state probate court ruled that E. Pierce Marshall was entitled to his father's estate. But in California, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled for Smith and awarded her $474 million because of her claims the son had interfered with the inheritance she was supposed to receive. A federal district court judge then cut Smith's award to $88 million. But the appeals court ruled she was entitled to nothing because federal courts lack jurisdiction in probate disputes. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in the ruling for the Supreme Court that the appeals court was wrong and the district court properly asserted jurisdiction over Smith's claims against the son.Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at thefederal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings areimplemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of thelawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to havehappened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probatecases?
It's a bankruptcy case. Bankruptcy court jurisdiction stays and
supersedes all pending state and federal cases. Under your reasoning,
a creditor or other claimant against bankruptcy assets could continue
to pursue his case against you after you file bankruptcy. That's the
question before the Supreme Court, and they ruled correctly in
accordance with a gazillion precedents.
- Jon Beaver - Mon, 01 May 2006 20:55:00 GMT(2)
- On Mon, 1 May 2006, Agent Smith wrote:
Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at the federal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings are implemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of the lawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to have happened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probate cases?
Why have you asked? What is your relation to the question? - Wed, 24 May 2006 13:41:00 GMT(3)
- >> Federal courts rule on cases where states are in conflict (Texas and California, in this instance). There is no clonflict. The entire estate is in Texas. That would like California trying to perform emminent domain in Texas
In Smith's case, the question was whether or not the bankruptcy court
(federal) or the probate court (state) had primary jurisdiction over an
overlapping issue.
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- On 1 May 2006, Jon Beaver <jbeaver@lawknowledge.org.NO.com> wrote:
Agent Smith <etc.> wrote: Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling * * * WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court . . . . The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. * * * She claimed that her husband promised her half of his estate. * * * [but i]n Texas, a state probate court ruled that [his son] was entitled to his father's estate. But in California, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled for Smith. * * * But the appeals court ruled she was entitled to nothing because federal courts lack jurisdiction in probate disputes. * * * Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at the federal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings are implemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of the lawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to have happened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probate cases? It's a bankruptcy case. Bankruptcy court jurisdiction stays and supersedes all pending state and federal cases. Under your reasoning, a creditor or other claimant against bankruptcy assets could continue to pursue his case against you after you file bankruptcy. That's the question before the Supreme Court, and they ruled correctly in accordance with a gazillion precedents.
I share Mr. Beaver's apparent agreement with the result and, I
presume, what he would take to be the predominant reasoning in the
Nicole Smith (Marshall) case, including that that ruling accords with
lots of precedent. However (though also preferring that it was not
necessary to do so), one might wonder whether his unqualifiedly broad
second sentence above - that "Bankruptcy court jurisdiction stays and
supersedes all pending state and federal cases" - may not fully accord
with what appears to be more than just passing recent judicial hints
to the effect that Bankruptcy Act jurisdiction may not be as extensive
as such a general statements suggests.
See, e.g., In re Mintze, 434 F.3d 222 (3d Cir. 2006), which held that
a Bankruptcy Court doe not have the authority ("jurisdiction") to deny
compelled arbitration of the bankrupt's contract dispute subject to a
broad arbitration provision covered by the Federal Arbitration Act
even if the claims/issues that would be determined in arbitration, if
they were litigated judicially in the bankruptcy court, would
constitute a "core proceeding" under the Bankruptcy Act (albeit Mintze
hasn't been reviewed by the Supremes). - Mon, 01 May 2006 17:08:00 GMT(5)
- In article <Xns97B6947A781ACagentsmithtwoblockso@lawknowledge.org.207.115.17.10 2>,
agent-smith@lawknowledge.org.two-blocks-on-your-left.com says...Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at thefederal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings areimplemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of thelawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to havehappened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probatecases?
Federal courts rule on cases where states are in conflict (Texas and
California, in this instance).
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- "Jon Beaver" <jbeaver@lawknowledge.org.NO.com> wrote in message
news:9did5211iehqah0jaednagl734bt1h79kk@lawknowledge.org.4ax.com... On Mon, 01 May 2006 18:35:36 GMT, Agent Smith <agent-smith@lawknowledge.org.two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote:"edonline" <edonlineSPAMOUT!@lawknowledge.org.comcast.net> wrote innews:0LOdnbhPPYHjg8vZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@lawknowledge.org.giganews.c om: http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID= 12025122&src=rss/Entertainment Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. The high court sent the case back to the federal appeals court in California for more proceedings in the long-running legal battle involving the former Playboy centerfold who also had her own reality television show. Smith was 26 when she married oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall in 1994. He was 89. They met three years earlier when she was working as a topless dancer in Houston. Marshall was one of the wealthiest men in Texas, worth more than an estimated $1.6 billion. His death in 1995, after 14 months of marriage, triggered a legal battle between Smith and his son, E. Pierce Marshall. She claimed that her husband promised her half of his estate. The son said the more than $6 million in gifts she received in 1994 was all his father wanted her to get. In Texas, a state probate court ruled that E. Pierce Marshall was entitled to his father's estate. But in California, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled for Smith and awarded her $474 million because of her claims the son had interfered with the inheritance she was supposed to receive. A federal district court judge then cut Smith's award to $88 million. But the appeals court ruled she was entitled to nothing because federal courts lack jurisdiction in probate disputes. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in the ruling for the Supreme Court that the appeals court was wrong and the district court properly asserted jurisdiction over Smith's claims against the son.Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at thefederal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings areimplemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of thelawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to havehappened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probatecases? It's a bankruptcy case. Bankruptcy court jurisdiction stays and supersedes all pending state and federal cases. Under your reasoning, a creditor or other claimant against bankruptcy assets could continue to pursue his case against you after you file bankruptcy. That's the question before the Supreme Court, and they ruled correctly in accordance with a gazillion precedents.
That would be like Chase Manhatten filing bankrupt then the court giving 454
billion of Bank America funds to Chase Bank just because they made had an
agreement to lets say share some banking locations. - Jon Beaver - Fri, 05 May 2006 15:04:00 GMT(7)
- "FeAudrey" <feaudrey@lawknowledge.org.yah00.forspamhaters.c0m> wrote in message
news:7qx5g.27037$NS6.14202@lawknowledge.org.newssvr30.news.prodigy. com... In article <Xns97B6947A781ACagentsmithtwoblockso@lawknowledge.org.207.115.17.10 2>, agent-smith@lawknowledge.org.two-blocks-on-your-left.com says...Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at thefederal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings areimplemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of thelawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to havehappened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probatecases? Federal courts rule on cases where states are in conflict (Texas and California, in this instance).
There is no clonflict. The entire estate is in Texas.
That would like California trying to perform emminent domain in Texas
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- Great for her.....what is between a husband and wife no one should
interfere....she should a least get her half.......let the rest of the
termites go after the rest.......k
"Agent Smith" <agent-smith@lawknowledge.org.two-blocks-on-your-left.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97B6947A781ACagentsmithtwoblockso@lawknowledge.org.207.115. 17.102... "edonline" <edonlineSPAMOUT!@lawknowledge.org.comcast.net> wrote in news:0LOdnbhPPYHjg8vZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@lawknowledge.org.giganews.com : http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml? type=entertainmentNews&storyID= 12025122&src=rss/Entertainment Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. The high court sent the case back to the federal appeals court in California for more proceedings in the long-running legal battle involving the former Playboy centerfold who also had her own reality television show. Smith was 26 when she married oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall in 1994. He was 89. They met three years earlier when she was working as a topless dancer in Houston. Marshall was one of the wealthiest men in Texas, worth more than an estimated $1.6 billion. His death in 1995, after 14 months of marriage, triggered a legal battle between Smith and his son, E. Pierce Marshall. She claimed that her husband promised her half of his estate. The son said the more than $6 million in gifts she received in 1994 was all his father wanted her to get. In Texas, a state probate court ruled that E. Pierce Marshall was entitled to his father's estate. But in California, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled for Smith and awarded her $474 million because of her claims the son had interfered with the inheritance she was supposed to receive. A federal district court judge then cut Smith's award to $88 million. But the appeals court ruled she was entitled to nothing because federal courts lack jurisdiction in probate disputes. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in the ruling for the Supreme Court that the appeals court was wrong and the district court properly asserted jurisdiction over Smith's claims against the son. Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at the federal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings are implemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of the lawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to have happened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probate cases? - Wed, 03 May 2006 09:58:00 GMT(9)
- On Mon, 1 May 2006, Agent Smith wrote:
Anna Nicole Smith wins ruling Mon May 1, 2006 10:32 AM ET By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former Playmate of the Year Anna Nicole Smith won from the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday a new chance to collect millions of dollars she claims her late Texas oil tycoon husband promised her. The justices unanimously overturned an appeals court ruling that the blond widow was entitled to nothing because federal courts lacked jurisdiction to hear claims that are also involved in state probate hearings. The high court sent the case back to the federal appeals court in California for more proceedings in the long-running legal battle Can anybody explain to me why this isn't just a power grab at the federal court level? As I understand it, probate rulings are implemented at the state level. Shouldn't that be the end of the lawsuits, even if the state courts rule incorrectly, as seems to have happened in this case. Since when do federal coursts rule on probate cases?
If I were a federal judge, I would look for excuses not to take on a case
that could be decided in a state court. One reason would be that anything
I might do would have a preemptive effect on anything the state judges
might want to do and I might screw things up to the point where I would
have to take the whole case.
So yes, there is a legitimate question of why a federal judge might want
to make a power grab. But I've known of a situation where it was proper
to seek federal intervention in a probate matter. Police and county
agents were imprisoning and extorting an old lady into changing her
testamentary plans.
If anyone ever wants to learn how useless and unethical the attorneys
were, I could tell you about their response in the situation.
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